This saddle was handmade from a guy out of pleasant Grove some years ago. I don't know much about it. It was handed down to me. The only thing I know, is the guy died a while back. And a custom saddle like this was very valuable. It is extremely well made. Comes with everything, pad stand saddle bags, headstall etc. I can get more photos here soon. It is practically in brand new condition with almost no scratches at all. It has been stored inside the house as decoration.