Smokey is the next step up for a kid that loves to ride but wants something that will follow behind at a slow pace or a bigger kid that is ready to wrangler a pony mind. ( no buck or kick) Our 4 year old daughter rides him well in a small area but isn’t able to ride out like she would. We purchased Smokey earlier this spring and has settled into our herd well. Can be difficult to catch is a large pen. Can swing a rope off him, move cows, is good to shoe. Has a couple other quirks that will talk to serious buyers about. Firm on price. If not interested in driving to Elmo Utah to see in person, please do not inquire.