2 mules both ride and pack they are around 14.2-15 hands haven’t actually measured them. Black one is stout can pack anything rides well but doesn’t neck rein guessing him to be in late teens. Red guy is definitely older he’s a solid mount with a good neck rein and packs fantastic. Don’t let their age fool you both have lots of miles left in then and it’s the perfect time to get min shape for hunting season. Both tie, trailer and stand for farrier asking $4000 together will consider separating. or trade for under horse, or a kids horse or who knows what.