Both are around 4 years old. Both run. Have titles for both. Red one drives no problems has front suspension and the light is a little loose. Black one has no suspension but starts and runs but throws the chain when trying to ride it, clutch?? Black one brakes aren’t great. Black one could use a little bit of parts and a little of work. We bought them brand new from cal ranch in Spanish fork. Asking $700 for both. Come check them out.