I picked these up at Ultimate Electronics for my Mom. Over the years, the grills were lost during her final memory phase. They were driven by a gfa-545 all those years They are in excellent shape. They are not to be underestimated. With a sub crossed ar 55 Hz, they easily hold their own against any bookshelf I’ve owned. They image beautifully, very sweet smooth top end, typical KEF precision with Uniq. Come hear em. They are priced fairly with missing grills.